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196000663

I have just seen the proposed tariff charges and my personal thoughts are that they are too high, I'd be in favour of leaving them as they are, elderly people such as OAP's would be impacted the most, so on that basis I'd prefer to stay as we are.

Also we need to consider the loss of business due to a price rise, overall the taxi drivers would be no better off, people vote with their feet on matters like this, trade would decrease.

Just some thoughts there.

It is a useful point to bear in mind that if hackney carriages are perceived to be too expensive, people may choose alternatives.

194470070

looking at the cost of taxi and inflation I think it should be more than the proposed tariff.

It is still very cheap. A minimum journey should be £8.00

The figures proposed in the consultation tariff put Vale of White Horse joint 16^th highest tariff (out of 349 councils) for a two mile journey on Tariff 1. Setting the flag fall to £8 would result in a 2 mile tariff 1 fare of £10.70 which would place us 2^nd highest in the country.

196752602

It will take more driver out of business.

There is insufficient detail to be able to respond to this comment.

195412023

195429283

Times:
Tariff 2 timings should be brought forward and as a result, others adjusted accordingly as follows:
Tariff 1 (Tariff 2 for MPV): 06:00 - 20:59
Tariff 2 (Tariff 3 for MPV): 21:00 - 00:59
Tariff 3 (Tariff 4 for MPV): 01:00 - 05:59
Christmas Eve & New Year’s Eve: 18:00 - 23:59

Minimum Charges should be as follows:
T1 = £6 T2 = £7 T3 = £8 T4 = £10

Reduction of Tariffs for MPV:
If the council wishes to move away from the additional tariffs (4&5 for MPV) then they should provide a suitable alternative. £1 per additional passenger is not sufficient, MPV uses up a lot more in fuel and general running costs are much higher. As a result, the council may find that there will not be enough MPVs. For the customer it may be bad news as if there are 5 of them the cost of an additional taxi depending on distance would be considerable compared to one MPV fare.
Example: 5 People on Council Proposed Tariff 2 at 23:30, Abingdon to Wantage – 10 miles
On the old Tariff system, it would have been something like £43.25 (£0.50 per mile more on MPV per tariff). The starting rate should also be slightly higher as per the per-mile charge (maybe £0.50-£1).
Total: £43.25 approx. depending on the tariff start rate.
Cost £8.65 per head
£38.20 per taxi as 2 cars would be required = a Total of £76.40,
Cost £15.28 per head - almost double the amount for the customer and the possibility of another vehicle not being available, not to mention 2 vehicles going to the same destination creating more pollution than we must, when that vehicle could have taken someone else home.
Preferred Solution 1 Options:
Reduce the tariffs to 4 rather than 3 from 5.
For MPV - 4 Plus passenger:
Tariff 2: 06:00-20:59
Tariff 3: 21:00-00:59
Tariff 4: 01:00-05:59 (& Bank Holidays)
(Tariff 4 would be identical to Tariff 3 with 2 changes:
1) £10.00 inclusive of 1st mile.
2) £0.45 pen per mile.
Solutions 2 options?
£4 / £5 / £6? Additional fee for Carrying more than 4 passengers per person
or
£7 / £8 / £9? Additional flat fee for any additional Passengers after 4. – Potentially up to 8 passengers.

Waiting Charge:
The waiting time needs to be adjusted to reflect what happens. When people keep a driver waiting whilst they are still chatting/saying long goodbyes / keeping us waiting at food places, most of the time at busy periods for us. It hinders our income when that happens.
These should be:
Waiting time per minute or part thereof:
Tariff 1 - £0.35
Tariff 2 - £0.40
Tariff 3 - £0.45
Tariff 4 - £0.50

Soiling Charge of £100:
Although it’s an increased amount, which was never sufficient. It still wouldn’t be sufficient when you consider the following factors:
In the normal case scenario when it happens:
The driver will be off-road with immediate effect – Loss of earnings
The driver will be having to deal with the smell initially.
Then the cost to get the vehicle Valeted which can be anything from £70 to £100.
The Vehicle may be off-road due to smell for 2/3 days – further loss of earnings
Listed above are genuine situations a night shift taxi driver will deal with, So the £100 is not sufficient but we are also not asking for £300/£400 – something reasonable…. something in between £150 to £200

Tariff 1 adjustments:

Due to the rise of the cost of living and running costs for the Taxi driver, not only the fuel has shot up in price but other costs including council fees, repairs, tires etc. £0.30 rise per mile don't cover the costs when you consider all factors.
The drivers are usually waiting around for long periods without a job and then when he/she gets one, it must be able to help to cover quieter periods. because most of the area covered by the vale is rural and the fares are so few and far between. So, a minimum of £3 per mile during the day would help in covering the rising costs. If the council does not seriously consider something like this, there may not be many taxi drivers on the rank as they just can’t make ends meet.

Finally, we appreciate that the council will look to review the tariff situation in the next 12 months due to the cost of living crisis.

The different timings proposed are based on a higher rate for unsociable hours and officers would not support a large number of tariffs that could confuse customers. As outlined above, officers do not support additional separate tariffs for MPVs to use when they are carrying more than four passengers, as this could be open to fraud as the driver would be able to select the tariff at any time. However in view of the concerns outlined in the response, officers are happy to propose an increase to the ‘extra’ charge per passenger to £1.50. Officers are also happy to increase the soiling charge to £150. Increasing the tariff 1 distance charge to £0.30 to achieve the £3 per mile would result in a 2 mile tariff 1 fare of £8.40 which would place us joint 7^th highest in the country. The waiting time proposed in the consultation tariff is a rate of approximately £16.20 an hour.

195321149

This year we have seen a 90% increase in fuel so far. Doubling of tyre costs. A massive increase in new and second hand car costs nearly double in some cases. 18 months off work due to Covid & crippling inflation. Tariff one of £5.40 Flag and £2.70 a mile is lower than anyone currently charges in South Oxford Region. We used these exact Tariffs 12 years ago in 2010. I propose to change Tariff 1 to be minimum £6.00 Flag and £3.00 a mile to keep up with inflation for both Vale and S.O.D.C. Councils.

The figures proposed in the consultation tariff were based on an inflationary rise. Using the figures suggested on the left would result in a 2 mile tariff 1 fare of £9 which would place us 6^th highest in the country.

194993049

The charge of £1per passenger when carrying more than is absolutely unacceptable.

This change is proposed to avoid the need for additional separate tariffs for MPVs to use when they are carrying more than four passengers, as this could be open to fraud as the driver would be able to select that tariff at any time.

194540007

What I think minimum fare should be at least £6 on tariff 1 because how the rise of fuel price gone up. At least 30 pence 161 metre. Thanks

Setting the flag fall to £6 and distance charge to £0.30 would result in a 2 mile tariff 1 fare of £9.00 which would place us 6^th highest in the country.

194535702

The issue of 5 passenger or more, should be traffic 2.

As outlined above, officers do not support additional separate tariffs for MPVs to use when they are carrying more than four passengers, as this could be open to fraud as the driver would be able to select the tariff at any time.

194526757

I agree with the flag fall, but would like to see the distance charge at a round figure

Increasing the tariff 1 distance charge to £0.30 (the nearest round figure) would result in a 2 mile tariff 1 fare of £8.40 which would place us joint 7^th highest in the country.

194469367

Agree with all increases but as an mpv vehicle owner totally disagree on adding a pound extra per person regardless of distance.
It should be left as before & compliance tests should be more stringent that ONLY MPV,s or vehicles that carry more than 4 passengers have 5 tariffs, vehicle’s carrying 4 or less passengers would only need 3 tariff’s. I look forward to your reply

As outlined above, officers do not support additional separate tariffs for MPVs to use when they are carrying more than four passengers, as this could be open to fraud as the driver would be able to select the tariff at any time. However in view of the concerns outlined in the response, officers are happy to propose an increase to the ‘extra’ charge per passenger to £1.50.

196910754

You guys have put all the prices up on plates and other bits and bobs but the tariff is too low

The figures proposed in the consultation tariff put Vale of White Horse joint 16^th highest tariff (out of 349 councils) for a two mile journey on Tariff 1.

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